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  1. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    Plan on paying more than current prices if you want to wait until things look more favorable. My most profitable buys (of pretty much stock in any company) have been made in the midst of fake doom and gloom.
  2. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    Ha-ha! Leo is a big crybaby who didn't even own TSLA when Elon's pay package was originally voted on. He's a dreamer who doesn't understand how the real world works and has missed out on most of the gains in TSLA stock. He's just butt-hurt that Elon won't give him the time of day. Because Elon...
  3. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    What you call a "spat" or a "tantrum", I call exposing what's wrong in America. Elon is trying to bring high paying manufacturing jobs back to the United States and that requires that people understand why the odds are stacked against the United States. And its not just because workers cost more...
  4. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    No, I don't think all (or even most) boards are corrupt. It's not corrupt to be related to the CEO or have social interactions between the CEO and board members. It's a small world, knowing someone doesn't mean you can't do your job. Voting again would be a great option if the clock could be...
  5. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    I do know your history on TMC, because you used the same profile image and I've read thousands of your posts (unfortunately) and, yes, the majority of them had negative perspectives that I didn't feel were supported by the facts. You often hate on Elon and rarely give him credit for anything...
  6. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    I think it stretches the limits of credibility to think shareholders didn't know that Kimbal Musk was Elon's brother and that Elon didn't have a friendly relationship with board members. That's all pretty normal in the corporate worlld, the judge was just looking for things to justify her...
  7. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    Meanwhile, Wall Street Brokerage houses, who have special highly paid auto analysts, to advise their high net-worth clients, were reporting that Tesla was over-valued at a split adjusted price of $13/share (because Tesla was unlikely to hit their stated goals). Some of them said the goals were...
  8. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    I don't believe what you believe and, without new evidence to the contrary, I never will. I don't have a long history of hating on Elon incessantly, that's what got you banned from TMC, something that's pretty hard to achieve because they have a surprising tolerance for people who are...
  9. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    Depending upon what Elon says, he will lose some people while gaining others. In the last two years Elon has made Tesla more appealing to people in the center and center right of the political spectrum. So what if he loses one long-term Tesla fan for every two customers he gains. Do you have any...
  10. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    I was a shareholder when the Board of Directors asked the shareholders to vote on Elon's compensation package. They didn't need to do that, they had the legal authority to approve it without a shareholder vote. As a shareholder, I knew exactly what the compensation package entailed. I knew that...
  11. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    N Nope, the decline in auto sales is across the board, all manufacturers are seeing big declines, many of them steeper than Tesla. Only if Elon was the CEO of all those other auto companies could a logical person attribute falling sales to Elon.
  12. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    That's false. People have been claiming Elon is hurting sales since he made a bid for Twitter over two years ago. In the most recent full year, Tesla had the best-selling car in the world! And it wasn't even a gas car, nor was it their least expensive car! Elon has guided Tesla right into the...
  13. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    Exactly. And that's why Tesla is being attacked from its heart outward. They want Elon to leave Tesla floundering so the legacy automakers can have their way once again. This attack has no previous legal precedent, it came from a silly lawsuit of someone with less than 12 shares and a corrupt...
  14. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    Without Elon the company probably would be bankrupt, there would be no products to sell. Of course you have no insight to what value he adds to the company - you aren't a member of Tesla's management team! You're not even on the Board of Directors! People who work with him consistently are...
  15. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    If you don't follow auto industry sales, you wouldn't know that Q1 2024 was terrible for most automakers. not only is Q1 historically a very difficult quarter for auto sales, but high interest rates has everyone down last quarter, this is not specific to Tesla or Elon Musk, so I'm looking at the...
  16. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    I support Elon's right to make his true self known to the millions of people his vision is helping. In America we have freedom of expression and tackiling the toughest jobs facing humanity shouldn't negatively impact that right. Besides, while I don't agree with everything Elon says, I don't...
  17. HaulingAss

    Shareholders, would you vote to reinstate Elon's pay package

    This shareholder vote, if passed, would not overturn a court order. It would merely confirm that shareholders weren't dangling a carrot in front of Elon to get him to work his fingers to the bone towards making Tesla successful, only to yank that carrot away once he succeeded. The odd thing...
  18. HaulingAss

    FSD safety and FUD

    Exactly! Lowering the accident rate by 90% would save billions of dollars, and over 30,000 lives every year, just in the US. Insurance companies would love that.
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