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  1. cvalue13

    Ford EV will gain access to Tesla Superchargers and come with standard NACS ports starting 2025!

    That’s not exactly how the funds work Tesla can receive funds to build their entire supercharger station, so long as it includes at least 4 CCS also, regardless, Tesla would have to agree to open their stations to non-Tesla vehicles You have this same energy when it comes to Tesla having...
  2. cvalue13

    GM Adopting NACS Tesla Charge Ports on Its Vehicles Starting 2025!

    imma remember this analogy for the daily convos RE Ford’s margins not matching Tesla’s Ford grows and sells egg to Denny’s for $1, Denny’s cooks and sells egg to hungover customer @CyberGus for $2 Tesla grows, cooks, and sells egg to hungover customer @CyberGus for $2 WHY DOESNT FORD HAVE...
  3. cvalue13

    Ford EV will gain access to Tesla Superchargers and come with standard NACS ports starting 2025!

    CCS is an open platform. NACS is a closed platform. imagine Apple creates a phone with a charge cable that only works for Apple phones, and can’t be used by any other phones now imagine 10 other phone companies create their own phones, that all use the same charge cable, and can be shared...
  4. cvalue13

    Ford/GM/Superchargers... the ELEPHANT in the room......

    yeah no doubt the constraint(s) that lead to present designs but the present designs weren’t intended to sufficiently accommodate all these vehicle variables and as you try and expand market, and convert ICE to BEV eg, you can’t hope to convert ICE pickup drivers by selling impressive towing...
  5. cvalue13

    Ford/GM/Superchargers... the ELEPHANT in the room......

    not near as far as if it had a trailer These quibbles is why I propose an extremely novel arrangement, which may experience some pushback at first but I think will eventually catch on: there’s an island, which vehicles can approach from either direction, on either side, with 2 sets of chargers...
  6. cvalue13

    Ford/GM/Superchargers... the ELEPHANT in the room......

    *slow clap* the nose-in stalls just become incongruent with the future, once vehicles of different lengths (to include trailer unknowns), widths, etc., are cohabitating
  7. cvalue13

    Ford EV will gain access to Tesla Superchargers and come with standard NACS ports starting 2025!

    the IRA, clumsily, only lists a qualification that to be eligible for construction funding a station have at least 4 CCS enabled chargers - which was an obvious and direct exclusion of funding for any typical Tesla supercharger station it does not list the converse: that a station with...
  8. cvalue13

    Ford EV will gain access to Tesla Superchargers and come with standard NACS ports starting 2025!

    we’re talking about different things I’m not talking about who can charger where based on adaptor, nor superchargers getting crowded with non-teslas I’m talking about the terms of the IRA AND ITS statutory basis for federal funding of charger construction
  9. cvalue13

    Ford EV will gain access to Tesla Superchargers and come with standard NACS ports starting 2025!

    So, the IRA required “everyone” to have access to federally funded chargers. at the time, that cut only one direction: “everyone” except Tesla were on CCS. So in effect, they law read: because Tesla is the odd-man-out, all charge stations can get federal funding other than Tesla, unless/until...
  10. cvalue13

    GM Adopting NACS Tesla Charge Ports on Its Vehicles Starting 2025!

    since VW is parent company of Electrify America (per deiselgate reparations) through at least 2026 (it was a 10yr commitment I think), it would seem VW finds itself in a bit of a challenging spot to change from CCS to NACS without also undercutting EA
  11. cvalue13

    Ford/GM/Superchargers... the ELEPHANT in the room......

    mif that’s actually the type of paper Tesla and/or buc-ee’s are relying on… whew
  12. cvalue13

    Ford/GM/Superchargers... the ELEPHANT in the room......

    it’s almost as if gasoline stations have for a century been designed to be fuel door location agnostic man, I just realized, now that Tesla is HQ’d in Texas, they should partner with Buc-ee’s, the gigafactory of refueling (and the Space-X of bathrooms)
  13. cvalue13

    Ford/GM/Superchargers... the ELEPHANT in the room......

    I thought we’re talking about supercharging? You appear to be looking at L2 charge rates. For which a model X/S also takes ~10.5hrs But with L3 supercharging, I just recounted: the Lightning 133kWh pack charges 15-80% in ~40mins, while the Model S/X 100kWh pack charges 15-80% in ~30mins
  14. cvalue13

    Ford/GM/Superchargers... the ELEPHANT in the room......

    why do you think that? Or I guess I should say, what’s “as long to charge”? for an ER, it’s ~40min from 15-80% (131 kWh usable) The S/X have what, 100kWh usable? As I understand it, they are ~30min from 15-80%, no? If so, seems **about** the same rate, adjusting for the ~25% larger pack in...
  15. cvalue13

    GM Adopting NACS Tesla Charge Ports on Its Vehicles Starting 2025!

    To be fair, Ford and GM aren’t talking about producing NACS vehicles until 2025 - and that’s if things go as planned Not like the White House is going to re-write funding regs for the next two years of grants, to exclude CCS chargers, because some day there’ll be be more NACS vehicles
  16. cvalue13

    GM Adopting NACS Tesla Charge Ports on Its Vehicles Starting 2025!

    A challenge is that few businesses own their real estate. Which means charger installations falls to commercial RE owners. They’d be making a bet that the cost will attract lessees, or that lessees will cover the costs in their lease terms. But BEVs are at max 1% of vehicles on the road in...
  17. cvalue13

    GM Adopting NACS Tesla Charge Ports on Its Vehicles Starting 2025!

    I’m referring to those 200,000 vehicles the 200,000th vehicle sold (July 2018), plus the 6months of trailing incentives of FY sales thereafter (through Dec 31 2018), plus the subsequent phase-down year (to end of 2019) = the first ~10 years of Tesla’s existence Arguably some mission-critical...
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