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  1. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    a 48A is on the medium/slower range of L2 charging If it’s an L2, then we’re not talking 5 minutes. You’re gonna want to plan a meal around it. For a 48A L2, I’m guesstimating something like 20-45 miles equivalent of charge, per hour of charge.
  2. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    I appreciate the sentiment here. If ā€œcustomer is always right,ā€ then there better be a ready answer - seems to be the gist. Perhaps a so far unstated glitch in communication here is your apparent assumption that there are readily available fast chargers dotted around towns? Because with few...
  3. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    I appreciate the frustration, and sorry I can’t do more to help. I can only clarify by being frank: you’re asking a nonsensical question. You are not asking a question that should tell any reasonable ā€œICE driver the stats they will use to determine if an EV is for them or notā€ That’s not...
  4. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    Seems the fundamental point getting misunderstood in both directions is this: charging is not analogous to refueling Obviously there are analogies to be made, but it’s not so analogous that all comparisons make straight-forward sense. When I get home at end of day, it takes all of 3 seconds...
  5. cvalue13

    Cannot make this up: Wyoming subset attempt to ban electric vehicles in the state

    To be fair to Wyoming, they’re prob just on edge from all the Californians moving out after Yellowstone
  6. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    I didn’t intend to be rough. I maybe just didn’t understand the posts in the first place. Like I said last, someone with a BEV that ends up accidentally needing to charge while running errands around town seems analogous to someone who accidentally runs out of gas before reaching a station...
  7. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    Apologies, if you’re someone who drives >200mi/day ā€œjust while running errands or taking clients around townā€ then I was way off! (To be fair, you might have mentioned that!) Otherwise, unless you forget to plug in while at home overnight, for several nights in a row, the I don’t see why...
  8. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    the reason that isn’t happening, is because it would be based on a premise these companies rightfully don’t share: namely, that it matters whether ā€œfilling upā€ takes >5mins. Let me preface by saying the Lightning is my first BEV, and I’m by no means either an unbridled BEV fan-boy, nor an...
  9. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    It’s clearly a huge weakness of any non-Tesla BEV platform, for certain (large?) swaths of drivers with material daily commutes, regular long distance driving habits, single car families, etc. I’m curious though about the extent of that weakness for other types of drivers/use cases, and then...
  10. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    I take that Tesla is ā€œaheadā€ as a foregone conclusion. That said, the degree of ā€œaheadā€ is TBD. I appreciate that I’m in the minority in this forum, but I personally don’t have a strong opinion on how soon, to what numbers, at what price, the CT will be available. Well said (the whole comment...
  11. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    agreed - that to me will be the inflection point at which the emperor’s clothes will be revealed, or not. Given the investment Ford is making, the available ā€œcheat sheetā€ in the market (eg Tesla), and the effective ā€œbetaā€ testing via current MachE and Lightning, it seems Ford’s to lose (in...
  12. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    things may well be inefficient in the way you describe, I don’t know - which is why I’m curious how you arrived at your figures RE losses of range for a given function? I have 3,500 miles on my Lightning, and am unfamiliar with any vehicle-provided metrics that would proffer this sort of...
  13. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    I didn’t intend my adjective selection to so color an otherwise uncontroversial point: if ICE vehicles/manufacturing are Ford’s past, and BEV vehicles/manufacturing are Ford’s future, then from the perspective of Ford and relative to Ford’s business these BEV factories are *Ford’s*...
  14. cvalue13

    Article: It's becoming increasingly clear Tesla is just another car company -- agree / disagree?

    I’m here for and enjoying all the education, but at this marginal topic do have a minor contribution/correction: I don’t think it’s accurate or compelling to hold up Ford’s Lightning production as being an indices of its execution capabilities as a manufacturer. The Lightning is an inbetweener...
  15. cvalue13

    Important inflation reduction act petition

    But … only prior to them being signed into law. There is no more ā€˜amending’ the IRA. The ā€˜petition’ is 6+ months late. or should I say, posting the petition here on this forum is late…
  16. cvalue13

    Important inflation reduction act petition

    I suppose I’m rusty in my legislative processes. But the bill itself *is* an amendment (of the previously existing law), and once signed by the president into law I don’t believe is subject to further ā€œamendingā€ in any normal course other than if there is an entirely new bill (like itself)...
  17. cvalue13

    Important inflation reduction act petition

    Seems strange (and poorly written/reasoned) to me. ā€œIf the proposal were to pass as writtenā€¦ā€ - is it not already passed into law, over 4 months ago? ā€œ[w]e believe this proposal, in its current form, contains a self-defeating incentive structure by overly rewarding production of plug-in...
  18. cvalue13

    Musk say's "Too much on my plate" [CLOSED DUE TO POLITICS]

    that’s if course also true, but just to clarify I was vaguely referring to those that are very much pro EV, very much sighted on reducing emissions, and moving the planet toward more sustainable methods of transportation. again, I’m not the expert and not here to defend their views, but I have...
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